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The Secret Lives of Christian Swingers

By on November 15, 2016 in Marriage with 58 Comments

A few years ago, the Ashley Madison website made waves through the Christian community.  The site told people that having an affair would, in fact, be good for a marriage rather than harmful.  Most who spoke against it talked about the sometimes-irreparable damage it would cause on marriages.

But, one of the questions that started surfacing out of the discussion on adultery was, “What is okay to do sexually within a marriage?

Since the advent of this question, there has been a growing belief in the Christian community that if both parties within a marriage agree and participate, then anything goes. That is, if one spouse shares a fantasy with the other, and both parties are game, then it is okay to play that out, regardless of what it is or who it involves. The end goal of participating in these sexual behaviors is ultimately to enhance the relationship.

Enter, “Christian Swinging.”

Yes, you read that correctly. Christian Swinging. With taglines like, “Meet local Christian swingers who believe that an open and honest relationship with each other will keep any marriage fresh and exciting,” websites are popping up to help Christian couples meet other Christian couples for the purpose of swinging.

The Discovery Fit and Health Channel has recently premiered a new reality show titled “Secret Sex Lives: Swingers.” The couples featured on the show were interviewed for a segment of the Today Show with Kathy Lee and Hoda. (You might be surprised to learn that one of the participants was raised a Southern Baptist.) What is swinging? Based on the “Swinger Dictionary” that Discovery Fit and Health provides its viewers, swinging is  “nonmonogamous behavior in which singles or partners in a committed relationship engage in sexual activities with others as a recreational or social activity.” Swingers are quick to point out that, unlike polyamory, swinging is not about relationship but is strictly sexual. And with TV shows and websites dedicated to popularizing and facilitating it, open marriages have never been more out in the open.

So is it still adultery if it’s mutual?

Is it so wrong if both marriage partners are aware and agree? While the “anything goes” mindset might sound like the latest way to spice up your marriage, this reasoning couldn’t be more faulty, damaging, and unbiblical. 

The sexual act is meant to be a monogamous experience, between one man and one woman, within the marriage context (Gen 2:24-25). Believing that the relationship will be enhanced by anything other or in addition to that is an all out lie by the Evil One himself. Bringing another person into the sexual relationship, even if it is seen as “strictly sexual,” is contrary to God’s design (Heb 13:4). Whether the person is real or fictional, depicted on a screen, in your mind, or in the room itself, there is never a place to justify a third, or fourth, or more.

Even beyond the marital commitment between a man and woman, God designed sex to be a relationship that unites persons made in the image of God. Daniel Heimbach reminds us in True Sexual Morality, that, from the very beginning, God created man and woman as His image bearers and that there is an “obvious link between bearing God’s image and how He intended that we use the gift of sex. How we behave sexually has to be consistent with what it means to bear God’s image.”1

If you are a married believer, it may be easy to assess quick judgment on Christian swingers. But, swinging is just one more notch on the sexual immorality ladder that our culture has been on for some time.  Pornography, erotica, adultery, homosexuality, emotional adultery, and fantasy have all had their claws in many marriages today, convincing them of the same lie . . . “But, it’s good for our relationship.”

Every one of us has to constantly remain on guard.

Let me encourage you and your spouse to take some time tonight and just check in with each other.  Where does your marriage stand in its sexual purity?

  • Have both of you protected your sexual relationship from including another person be it either by mental fantasy, pornography, or inappropriate relationships?
  • Do you both view sex as a way to build relational intimacy that far exceeds physical pleasure?
  • Is the sexual relationship between the two of you intimate and spiritual rather than a shallow physical act?
  • Do you both view the sexual act as part of  “becoming one flesh” and a gift God gives to a husband and wife, to be shared only between the two?

You may not be a swinger, but neither can you assume that your marriage is immune from succumbing to the lie that an illicit sexual relationship is good for your marriage.  If you struggled to affirm any of the above statements, God provides a way of redemption. Let today be the day that you turn the other direction and run to Christ. Let today be the day and your spouse commit to protecting the gift of a sexual relationship God has given your marriage.

Sex is good, beautiful, satisfying, and intimate. It provides relational depth, is wonderful in every detail, and truly brings glory to God if we understand and embrace it the way God designed it.

 


1 Daniel Heimbach, True Sexual Morality: Recovering Biblical Standards for a Culture in Crisis, Wheaton:  Crossway, 2004, p155.

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  1. Terry says:

    Great article! We Christian women cannot be the proverbial ostriches burying our heads in the sand. This is happening to women we know and for whom we care. One of my relatives and a close friend have both encountered this issue–both are Christians and both propositions were from Christian men. This article helps us to not only be aware of this behavior but also to be aware of our own vulnerabilities. Thank you for this timely message!

    • James says:

      I get your point and admire your heart but women are not victims. Being propositioned by a man does not obligate you to do anything. That’s just like saying satan propositioned me to sin and I did and at his fault that I sinned. Which in no case would God hold the devil accountable for a sin you committed. Everyone has a choice and everyone has their own relationship with God. Women do not get a free pass just because men tend to struggle in this area more then women.

  2. Scot Cross says:

    The scriptures referenced seem to bear no relevance to the statements they are obviously supposed to support.
    Would greatly appreciate some clarification here and use of relevant and appropriate supporting scriptural references.
    Thanks

  3. Liz says:

    Woman and men who swing, are spiritually sick. They abide in lies from the devil. They may quote scripture, and claim it – without any conscience in a sociopathic type of way, but they abide in the mockery of christ. It is better they depart from the faith… than stain it with evil. These are the same women who use men for money, divorce and remarry also forbidden for christian women and do all other things under the sun – living in a world of deception

    • AF says:

      Are you aware that Abraham, Isaac , Jacob , David , and other patriarchs and prophets in the Bible who are called righteous men were also swingers ? they had more than one wife and it wasn’t for any purpose related to God’s plan. if you are going to call people spiritually sick you need to have some pretty strong scriptural support behind your reason, because right now you don’t have it.

      • Wzrd1 says:

        Indeed, Solomon and his 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11) obviously was sick and should have been removed from the bible, yes?
        Abraham had a child with a woman who was a servant (Genesis 16), obviously he should have been removed from the bible and faith as well, yes?
        I could give example after example which undermines your and the host’s statements.

        Meanwhile, do you wear cotton and polyester clothing or a wool blend? That’s a violation of Leviticus, right next to the section against male homosexual relations.
        What buffet Christians you are, picking and choosing what you will follow, while ignoring the rest.

      • Ernest says:

        These persons you mension where mariad tho there wife’s before sexual intercourse and was permetired to do so by Biblical law. They did not attended parties and gave there women to other me as for sex.
        To cal Then my swingers is like calling any women having an affair with another man as Biblical.
        These persons where to be killed stoning.
        Your poor makes no Biblical Denver just a way of trying to justify your immoral actions.

        • KAM says:

          You need only expand your research beyond the stories of the bible and look at the every day lives of people in time of the bible….and you will find that all men could and did have more than one wife. And how many times was a father willing to give up his daughters to save an unknow stranger. You have got to start looking at the whole picture and quit picking and choosing what you like and don’t like.

      • Troy says:

        What you said about the biblical men being swingers ? you couldn’t be so wrong in what you said follow this link and just read what it says and then you can make your judgement https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/polygamy.html

    • Sarah says:

      My goodness, why not take another sin and listen to how you sound. Women who gossip are the same women who marry men for money, divorce and remarry. Take it easy and stick to the issue at hand.

  4. adam says:

    I have been searching for answers as to why swinging is bad for a Christian relationship.

    this article is depressing for me because it did not answer any questions with logic.

    as long as birth control is used in both people in the couple remain committed, there is no possible injury to the relationship or that couple’s relationship with God. have yet to hear a single piece of rationale against it. it makes as much sense as being told not to wear polkadots on Tuesday.

    • Carolyn says:

      Hebrews says to keep the marriage bed pure. Even if both agree it just isn’t healthy. It can open the door to soon many insecurities and jealousies.

      • AF says:

        Caroline the Bible doesn’t say then swinging is antithetical to keeping the marriage bed pure. these are conclusions based on bias and not scripture .

    • Robert says:

      Me and my wife have been married successfully for 34 yrs ..yes 34 years ….still buddies we are also Christian and we are just wondering where does this craziness finally stop with …the sanctity of marriage is big right now but according to jesus 50 70% church are in open sin re marriage is amazingly accepted …also multiple partners is all thru the bible by GReat Men of God …concubines are u kidding me …david before bathsheaba had 5 possibly 6 wives. He was “a man after Gods own heart at that time ” ..then married bathsheaba. .so I’m thinking “the marriage bed undefiled ” as a protective consept at any rate sin of the flesh were nothing compared to sins of the heart -where jesus lost his temper and anger was never at the flesh ..but the heart

    • Troy says:

      Aside from the biblical declarations that they are sin, polyamorous relationships cannot fulfill what the Bible says a marriage is to be. A married couple cannot be “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24) if multiple “fleshes” are involved. A married couple cannot fully love one another if that love is divided among other people. There cannot be true intimacy if what is supposed to be intimate is shared with others. Polyamory is not marriage. In no sense is a marriage supposed to be open to sexual activity outside of the marriage. Polyamory is, in reality, “poly-lust-ory.” There is nothing loving about it. This perversion of marriage is confirmation that “every intention of the thoughts of our hearts is only evil continually,” and that, without God, “everyone does what is right in his own eyes” (see Genesis 6:5 and Judges 21:25). # 1. Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her. –Leviticus 18:20
      # 2. But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. –Proverbs 6:32 6. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. –1st Corinthians 6:9-10 8. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. –1 Corinthians 6:18 hence the body is not your but gods temple . # 11. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. –Hebrews 13:4…………# 11. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, (“not with other people “)for God will judge the adulterer “swingers”and all the sexually immoral. –Hebrews 13:4 # 13. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexualimmorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.–Jude 1:7

      # 14. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. –Revelation 2:22

      # 15. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death. –Revelation 21:8……. need I say any more why being a swinger is wrong and that it is a sin.

      • Chris says:

        Your initial logic is flawed. Your assumption, or “belief”, is that “a married couple cannot fully love one another if that love is divided among other people. There cannot be true intimacy if what is supposed to be intimate is shared with others.” Essentially, you have just confessed your love is finite. You only have a certain amount of love to offer. This means you are only capable of loving more than one person fully or you must divide that love in order to accommodate a second love. That does not sound like real love at all. Anyone who has more than one child understands that their love for their children is not divided but is whole and full for each child. It’s an amazing experience. Why does it have to be any different for any other relationship? Before you try to differentiate between parental love and spousal love, remember, believers in Christ are referenced as children of God and the bride of Christ (God). God loves all of us infinitely and is intimate with all of us. Should our love be any different? Who are you to decide that for someone else? Based on YOUR interpretation of Scripture? Scripture has been used to defend slavery, the tyranny of kings, and the burning of “witches”at the stake.

  5. adam says:

    I would be interested in more logical and rational reasons for Christians not swinging. i’m speaking sincerely here.

    • AF says:

      amen to that. more scripture and reasoning and less bias

    • Gene says:

      I’ll give you a few … HERPES, GONORRHEA, SYPHILIS, HIV, and the “GRANDDADDY” of them all, FULL BLOWN AIDS!!!!! In addition to these, there’s Jealousy, Possessiveness, Assault/Abuse, Stalking, Insecurities, etc. … the list is literally ENDLESS!!!!! Just enjoy a wonderful, sexually creative, enhance-filled life with YOUR OWN SPOUSE, and NOBODY elses!!!!!

      • Dominic says:

        I and my wife consider ourselves Christian Swingers and it is unjustifiable to consider it wrong because YOU would be jealous and insecure. Most couples who get to the point where they are comfortable to do this have excellent communication. It’s not just something they go out and do so jealous sentiments are combed out as they come. Please don’t be ignorant. Do some research on the topic before you comment. Also, protection is a must and with that as a rule what say you now sinner?

        • Scott Hopper says:

          It is not possible to be a Christian swinger. Not possible!! This life is all about choices but there will be many people, a lot of people, that “consider themselves Christians” that can’t enter through the strait gate (Matthew 7:13-14). That’s saying, I am going to live the way I want to but It’s ok with God. Guess what, It’s not OK with God. I get it, I do. But being a true believer in Christ is a SACRIFICE. Denying yourself daily (Luke 9:23). Choose you this day whom ye will serve; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD (Joshua 24:15).
          But it is real hard for these swingers to hear to truth and understand it. Their eyes have been blinded (2 Cor 4:4) and God himself has given them over to their lustful desires. Every sin starts with a though, therefore, we (I said we) must spend time with God. Praying, Reading the word, and Fasting. Please leave this lifestyle and enjoy the fruits of your wife.

      • TS says:

        Gene, all those ‘reasons’ you just listed exist even in marriages that don’t involve swinging. Even godly, monogamous relationships are prone to these issues (minus the STDs, perhaps). As some other commenters here have stated: more facts, less bias.

      • Connie Abernathy says:

        Amen!

      • Of says:

        All man made! Marriage is men made created to impose possession over the female. In swinger relationships the women call the shots and are the drivers. I hope you still enjoy the so called sexually creative life – have you asked your wife if she does?

    • Troy says:

      Aside from the biblical declarations that they are sin, polyamorous relationships cannot fulfill what the Bible says a marriage is to be. A married couple cannot be “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24) if multiple “fleshes” are involved. A married couple cannot fully love one another if that love is divided among other people. There cannot be true intimacy if what is supposed to be intimate is shared with others. Polyamory is not marriage. In no sense is a marriage supposed to be open to sexual activity outside of the marriage. Polyamory is, in reality, “poly-lust-ory.” There is nothing loving about it. This perversion of marriage is confirmation that “every intention of the thoughts of our hearts is only evil continually,” and that, without God, “everyone does what is right in his own eyes” (see Genesis 6:5 and Judges 21:25). # 1. Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her. –Leviticus 18:20
      # 2. But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. –Proverbs 6:32 6. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. –1st Corinthians 6:9-10 8. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. –1 Corinthians 6:18 hence the body is not your but gods temple . # 11. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. –Hebrews 13:4…………# 11. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, (“not with other people “)for God will judge the adulterer “swingers”and all the sexually immoral. –Hebrews 13:4 # 13. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexualimmorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.–Jude 1:7

      # 14. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. –Revelation 2:22

      # 15. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death. –Revelation 21:8……. need I say any more why being a swinger is wrong and that it is a sin.

  6. Ken Smith says:

    My wife has a significant illness of 32 years one of rare affects of this illness is changes in the brain that make promiscuity and outside of the norm sexual desires that become overwhelming. This changed my wife. She is a devout Christian in every other way conceivable. She strayed outside of our marriage even seeking satisfaction with other women. She was working at a place where nearly every woman was a lesbian. She hid it from me for years. Her Christian faith hid it from me. When it finally came out I understood, after some reading on the subject of her illness, Parkinson’s disease and found out this not uncommon at all. I would have a hard time judging or condemning her as the rest of her life is spotless as far as i can see. She said she still struggles with it. She has included me in this of late It still revolves around her needs and I am glad that she finds some satisfaction and joy escaping from this awful and progressive illness, even if it just for a brief time.
    He who is without sin cast the first stone. I say that in love and if you would like to share your thoughts and comments with me I would read them all.

  7. Nate says:

    I am a christian and I have had sex with another man’s wife.Guess what?They were Christians too.The man was OK with it.I respect that’s his wife,and he has no problem letting me because they have a great relationship with God and each other.If a man allows his wife to have sex with his friend,it’s not adultery.

  8. malaika says:

    swinging is adultery, and the bible clearly speaks against adultery. there are multiple verses on it.The ten commandments too.I genuinely don’t know what verses you are looking for.one that specifically says do no swing as a you will certainly not find that one lol.but it’s the concept of adultery and sexual impurity that you will find.saying that because both parties are aware the situation is not adultery is absurb ,sorry to say..just because both unmarried people consent to having sex doesn’t make it any less than phonication (same concept).sex is a physical and spiritual activity meant to be shared with one,regardless of how casual we want to make it,bonds are formed with whoever we engage in the sexual act with.why should we put such a strain on our marriage.emotional distress and guilt that’s followed isn’t even worth it.the Bible won’t give us specific verses with the specific terms we want however we can grasp what is required from us by the many alternative words it provides.e.g it doesn’t say don’t swing,however it says don’t commit adultery.

  9. Brian says:

    My parents were swingers. Picked it up in the beatnik era. Also they had pornography in our home that included children, beastilaity, violence and you name it. Although I have no recollection of sexual abuse, there was plenty of violent physical and mental abuse. How could someone who loves his wife as Christ loved the church, dehumanize her that way ? Turn her into a commodity ? As a grown man I live as a loner in the mountains. Far from people, especially upper middle class educated ones. The “enlightened” by the light of Lucifer who run our world. Mother died insane, father is a pauper, once a “professional”. The rest of the family estranged and distant. Sex a gift from our Lord has been weaponized and turned into a deviant thing of filth. Our nation is cursed not blessed. It’s prosperous but not merciful, selfish not selfless. Our view on sexuality is a bell weather to our future.

  10. Erica says:

    1 Cor 7: 2 NIV
    But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his OWN wife, and each woman with her OWN husband

    • brian says:

      Amen, Erica. But why is infedelity as rampant among Christians as it is among unbelievers ? Why does the Evangelical church tolerate “leaders” who can’t control their own sexual behavior and pay themselves extravagant salaries to do the work of Jesus ? No body is perfect doesn’t hold water anymore. They don’t even aim at the bullseye anymore. An end zone dance just for hitting the barn is all we see. When the one world order/religion spoken of in Revelation is put in full force, the church will help lead it, not oppose it.

    • Todd stack says:

      1 Cor 7:1
      Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”

      1 Cor 7:6
      I say this as a concession, not as a command.

      1 Cor 7:28

      But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

      So if we cherry pick 1 Cor we shouldn’t have sex at all, none of what he’s saying is a command but merely suggestion and getting married in general is a bad idea.

  11. Steve says:

    Interesting how quickly Christians judge each other. They make statements like “the bible says, and this action or that action is wrong in God’s eyes… But then when it comes to biblical passage such as: “thy shalt not judge for thy will be judged” people choose to ignore it. “We’re in the right because we are living for God” they may say. So interesting yet so sad.

    If Someone is gay, let them be gay. If a couple chooses to swing, let them swing in peace. Know one on this earth has any authority to pass judgment on them. That is between them and God on judgement day. Some of you just might be surprised with what God may say to them on that judgment day, too.
    -Steve, MDiv; former pastor.

    • Al says:

      A comment concerning your usage of “Thy shalt not judge, for thy will be judged” The Bible does allow for one to judge another’s actions. If your read the whole text and not just the portion your referencing, the text goes on to say that “and with the same measure, it will be measured to you.” This speaks of not judgement but hypocrisy. Also, if I use the Bible, as my measure, to judge or correct someone’s actions, that someone must in turn use the Bible to correct me.

  12. KAM says:

    I grew up in church and went to a christian school. I am in my late 50’s and my beautiful wife and I swing.
    People choose to pick out what they want the bible to say without looking at the whole bible from beginning to end.
    Don’t tell me that it was ok for the patriarchal men of the old testament to have as many wifes and sex with as many hand maidens as he wanted but sence we are in a new covenant now it’s wrong.
    It’s been the best thing we have done to bring life back in to a boring, sex life. When you spend your life with one woman you know every touch, kiss and carress you are going to get in bed. Putting someone else in your bed puts life and excitement back in it.
    So enjoy life and for those that don’t know how too, don’t judge those that do!
    If the bible had all the answers that Christians believe it does this world would be a totally different place.

    • Brad says:

      God’s gift to you, your wife, you find boring. You scrutinize your blessings. I guess this Thanksgiving you will thank God for sex clubs. Women of the old testament were property, little else. I hope I find a lady who views love as something deeper and more meaningful than a two minute orgasm. Your country is superficial and selfish. It’s cursed. Prosperous, yes. Blessed no. Children of swingers often have deep emotional and spiritual scars. And some swingers not all, get bored with that too and explore even more deviant amd darker avenues.

  13. Malcolm says:

    Dictionary defines Adultery as – extramarital sexual act.
    Bible defines adultery as – Sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife. Lev18:20 A single act of sexual intercourse is generally sufficient to constitute adultery. You can read whole of Leviticus 18 to see everything regarding sexual immorality.

    Those who committed adultery in the bible were punished. King David’s descendants were punished for David’s adulterous acts.

    So if you think lesbians, gays and swingers are allowed in true Christian walks of life then you are wrong.

    You shall not commit adultery. (NIV, Exodus 20:14)

    But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. (NIV, Proverbs 6:32)

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.(NIV, Matthew 5:27-28)

    God warn the Israelites not to do what the Egyptians or those that are living in Canaan were practising. So if you are a christian, do not try to incorporate what belongs to the devil into the christian society.

    We can not compare ourselves with the biblical heros and prophets who committed adultery and say its okay, cause they are from the chosen tribe and we are not. It is a privilege for us to be Christians.

  14. Marhes says:

    “Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: ‘The Lord knows those who are his,’ and, ‘Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness'” (2 Timothy 2:19). Carefully consider also “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness'” (Matthew 7:21-23).

    God knows those who obey Him. We love Jesus by obeying Him (John 15:14; 1 John 2:4, 1 John 3:6).

    Now, what did Jesus say? “For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:20). Jesus also says, “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:28). Even looking isn’t allowed.

    What has Paul taught? “The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21).

    Many proponents of swinging are having their say and try to do so convincingly. They will have to answer for leading others astray. Hell is hot and time is short. Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

  15. Leonardo says:

    Cmon!
    Are you really going to listen to this horrible god!?
    Aren’t you reallly just following another myth?!
    Like many books, the bible has some good common sense advise and also has a lot of garbage in it. Because it was written by Bronze Age thugs.
    Oh it’s the word of god you say? When I point out the mysoginy, genoside, stoning and raping of women and children….you come up with some convenient excuse like those were different times or the people deserved it they were simmers,, lol, or the bible is inspired by god but written by man.

    Keep your silly shameful mythology,and I will keep my common sense secular humanism.

  16. Anna A Demko says:

    These two words aren’t applicable in the same sentence. You cannot claim that be a Christian and an adulterer. So basically if both parties agree then it’s not sin anymore? How can you even mock God so? “Thou shalt not want your neighbor’s wife”
    “If a man looks upon a woman with desire he has already committed adultery in his heart”
    “Instead of burning up in your own desires each have his own wife and her own husband”
    God did not intend for even patriarchs of faith to have multiple wives. He told Abraham to wait on the promise of child and he DIDN’T who h resulted in huge problems that continue to this day.
    The same of Jacob he had a plan for him but Jacob was persistent in his own lustful desire.
    The Kings weren’t above God’s law but simply because they were in position of power they went to excess on the wives thing and that was the downfall of Solomon.
    You cannot call yourself born again, saved Christian who is praying and seeking God’s will in your life and still ‘swing’. You have a free will and can whatever you want. God will not send fire from Heaven but there will be judgement day and you will reap what you saw.
    Marriage is image of God. It’s the image of His love for His Church. Jesus Christ died for the Church and says that husbands are you love their husbands as Christ Loved the church. Marriage is unity of spirit, body, soul and mind. It’s is God’s call to show Him here on Earth.

  17. jd says:

    nobody is without sin

  18. Chuck Daly says:

    How can one use Gen 2:24-25 as evidence that non-monogamy is a sin, when it is believed by most Biblical historians that Moses took on a second wife, a cushite. Polygamy and concubines are common throughout the old testament, yet there are no examples of anyone being punished for it. Even Esther was Xerxes’ concubine before she became his queen. Polygamy is never spoken against until the New Testament, but only for those who are church leaders. It is also widely known that Jews still practiced polygamy during that time, while the Romans frowned upon it. Again, its widely believed by Biblical historians that monogamy was a belief adopted from Roman culture.

    The best biblical case against swinging is that all acts of adultery in the Bible include a man sleeping with another man’s wife. Despite all the wives and concubines king David (A man after God’s own heart) had, he was only punished for hooking up with Bathsheba.

    So much of what christians believe about sex and marriage isn’t even biblical. It took me 60 seconds to research the word orgy, to find out that the word’s definition didn’t include any sexual act until the 17th century? Yet people use bible verses with the word in as examples of sexual debauchery. When people discover that you got the small things wrong, they are less likely to believe the big things you say. They also are more likely to believe the person who pointed out those falsehoods. Christians need to wake up.

    • Wzrd1 says:

      Now, common sense is obviously uncommon.
      Why to you appeal to that which is obviously extinct?

    • Keith says:

      Thanks Chuck, well said. And yes Christians need to wake up and quit believing something just because they have been taught it. And seek out the truth, the real truth. They may be surprised to find it outside of the bible.

  19. Scott says:

    WOW!! People who say that having more than one lover ( “swinging” ) are wrong aren’t seeing that Soloman had many lovers and so did David. What can they say about that? They seem to ignore that. God didn’t have a problem with it or He would have said He did. If
    God didn’t have problem with them why would He have a problem with the avarage christian? I get it. Some people have a problem with it and some don’t. The Bible says to work out your own salvation.

  20. Scott says:

    I would like to add another point. When scripture seems to contadict itself ( says one thing and then say something different about a subject ) then the answere is YES for both. Both points are true. If you know anything about the Bible then you know that that is true. Both Soloman and David had more than one woman ( and you can’t say that there wasn’t any sex going on with them. That would just be nieve ) This subject applies here. There’s scripture that says no and there is great indication that it is ok. So both are true. See??

  21. Judson says:

    The reason the sins, infidelity, adultery of our biblical forefathers were written down were to show their disobedience and weakness failure and ultimate “Grace and Redemption” of YHWH..Not to justify their behavior. If you have to question or examine the meaning of loyalty, dedication, commitment, respect and self-respect in a marriage it simply mean’s you’re spiritually void and self absorbed…The bible says “Man desperately love his sin”..Now lets be honest with ourselves, Selfishness in most cases drives people out of marriage: So we’ve come up with this brilliant plan, introduce a third or a fourth into the bedroom? The Devil is a genius because the thought plants a seed that becomes both erotic and repulsive thus creates the fantasy…As a single Christian man who loves sex_I have abstained for 15 years because I want that Godly woman who believes “One man One woman” as God intended it….Sex the gift of God but the tool of the Devil.

    • Chris says:

      When i was a young believer i trusted what i was taught and was very confident in my convictions. As i continued on my journey i observed a repetitive dissemination of the same old sermons and teachings. Very few were more than bullet point presentations of the same scriptures with virtually no deviation from the same generic message. I realized that what is called the “church” today is nothing more than a religious system that expectes my total obedience to its doctrine. I was essentially paying (tithing) to be enslaved by a system which dictated almost every aspect of my life. Thankfully, God began to open my eyes and pour revelation into my life. The shackles and blinders were removed. I don’t answer to dogma, doctrine or church by-laws. I answer only to Him! Because i only answer to Him, i respect His relationship with others. It is not for me to interfere with, interject myself into, or intermediate someone else’s sacred union. It is my conviction that God’s ultimate purpose for us is intimate relations with Him. Through the sacrifice of Christ, the curtain of the Holy of Holy’s has been ripped from top to bottom permitting Him to once again commune with his people they way he originally intended. To now use the law to shape that relationship is to imprison him once again in the temple and replace relationship with systemic legalism which men hijack for their own selfish gain. I will allow no one to stand in the gap for me. Only He knows best. Keeping that always in mind, i do not pretend to know what is right and wrong for someone else. How can I? With a personal relationship comes personalized revelation. Systemic legalism is for the isolated masses. Relationship is for the reunited individual. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling and allow others to do the same. He is the prize, always!

    • Scott says:

      Quick comment to Judson.

      I have been a christian for 32 years and have had only one girl friend in that time frame. I had sex with her once. I broke up with her after that because I didn’t want to go down that road of sin. I have abstained from sex for 22 years. To call someone self absorbed with out really knowing that person is really ignorant and immature. If you had any idea what the term yes means when scripture contradicts itself you would know what I’m talking about. But you don’t. And I’m not going to explain it to you. So do a little research so you can know what you’re talking about next time.

  22. Spock says:

    The sexual act is meant to be a monogamous experience, between one man and one woman, within the marriage context (Gen 2:24-25)

    Yet there are multiple passages that condone polygamy and one in particular that insists that the man provide for the sexual needs of more than one woman. From this it is clear that the Bible is contradicting itself. How do you reconcile this with fact with your belief scripture is the infallible word of God?

    • Judson says:

      A complete misunderstanding of the scriptures that refer to the Patriarchs “Sins” “Indiscretions” “Transgressions” and “Impatience” If the writers wanted they could have simply omitted those passages lol..Common!!..They all payed the price for, Polygamy, Infidelity, Adultery and God punished them individually, they didn’t just run along as if nothing happened. they lost plenty..You should read the bible sometime.

    • malaika says:

      Which verse contradicts itself..kindly share

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